Brakes are dragging

[George Kretschmann]

I don't think it should take 2 hands to rotate the main wheels. I just rebuilt the main calipers new flex hoses and purged the old fluid with new fluid and the brakes seem to be very tight. The calipers and pistons cleaned very nice and assembled with no issues does the master cylinders need rebuilding as well I didn't think they were a problem?
Anyone else have these problems?

Thanks George

[N3322G]

Nope - one hand 65 year old non-weightlifting female. Other hand is on the throttles.

[Kristin Winter]

It is likely that the bolts holding the back plates on the caliper have been over-tightened numerous times. The spec is about 60 in/lbs, which is often ignored. That puts indentations in the thick, aluminum, crescent-shaped spacer. There should be that spacer and a crescent-shaped phenolic spacer. Also, you should be using the 66-65 and 66-62 pads and not the older 66-15 and 66-19 pads. These are obsolete and don't seem to work well with the newer discs.

[George Kretschmann]

I got the pads from Webco, and I'll check the torque tomorrow. I'll also check those part numbers. Thanks George

[N3322G]

George - know you are talking brakes and perhaps that is the last thing you changed so best suspect.

Perhaps if you've also recently adjusted the trim tab, that would also be a factor for tough to pull off the ground.

If it is the brakes, there should be a corresponding, short landing roll or maybe tire chirping on landing with perhaps more wear on tires.

For sure, if I were you, I'd check Kristin's ideas first.

[George Kretschmann]

I will, I have the older brake shoes and will order the newer one this week. One thing I do notice is when I move the plane back and forth the calipers move and stop against the stop pins. I don't think I have seen that before, is that normal? You really don't notice things until a problem comes up.

And to change the Subject I installed GAMI injectors this week and did a hour flight and could notice the difference. The engine run a whole lot smoother and can lean better.

Thanks George

[Kristin Winter]

George,

It sounds like the torque plates are too sloppy. Have you downloaded the Cleveland maintenance manual. It might have some specs on the wear. My guess is more more than .003 to .005 clearance, but that is a guess. If the spec is not in the manual, you can contact Cleveland and ask. Post it please if you find it.

The bad news is that if you need new ones, they are expensive and rare. I had a heck of a time finding a pair in 2010 and I think they cost me around $325 each. I would be tempted to have a machine shop weld it up and ream out to the correct dimension, or some such repair.

[George Kretschmann]

Great, just what I need. I will post back any info I find on the subject. I did order the other brake pads from Cheif, they had them. Thanks George

[George Kretschmann]

[Kristin Winter]

You don't need the larger one. It is obsolete. The brakes use two of one an the back plate and two of the other on the pressure plate. I can't remember which ones are which off hand. Download the Cleveland Maintenance Manual and it will tell you what to put where.

[George Kretschmann]

RA066-06500 (PP) Pressure Plate
RA066-06200 (BP) Backing Plate

Here is what I found, mine still has the one piece on both sides, I guess Ill swap them out and put the 65's on the pressure side. Thanks George