337 for Navajo Yokes?

[Jay]

Sorry Kristin, should have remembered Maggie's yokes. I've never flown any Piper twins except for Senecas and Twinkies, by accident I ended up in twin Cessnas, but I've always wanted to check out the bigger guys. Everybody I've ever talked to loves Navajos.

Jay

[Zach Grant L1011jock]

Here is a picture comparing the two. The installed yoke is in a Navajo, and the one I am holding below it is the PA24/30/39 PN. The are in fact close to the same width at the botom, but the Comanche style has a very different angle to the vertical components.
-Zach

[Terry Rawlins]

I have had my PA39 fitted with the Cygnet Control Wheels. http://www.cygnet-aero.com/Products/p_ramswheel.html

Chris Szarek [chris@cygnet.aero] was very helpful and supplied a specimen 337 on which mine was based.

Terry

[Charlie Tripp]

My AP/AI used the above posted 337 as a reference for the 337 used to approve the Navajo yokes that I had installed years ago. The Memphis TN inspector did not accept the 337 saying Piper Drawing No. 22988 did not show anything supporting installation of the Navajo yokes in a Comanche. The 337 below is what he accepted for installation of Navajo yokes in the Comanche.

Navajo Yoke 337.pdf

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[Kristin Winter]

Without researching it, I would have said that replacing the yokes was a minor alternation and only needed a logbook entry.

[Zach Grant L1011jock]

Kris,
I would imagine that would depend on how broadly you define "flight control system". IND FSDO says its the same as changing a aileron actuator to a different type, as the yoke is directly links to the flight control power source. I countered that since the pilot was the power source, that a pilot change therefore needed a field approval using their logic....based on my 4 ply tire issue, I bet you know who won the argument.....
Zach

[Kristin Winter]

A gray area. If you want to mess with them, you can take them a 337 to change the yoke medallion to a more recent version and see what they think about that.

[Charlie Tripp]

I was just trying to make sure I had everything covered fully for all the additions I’ve added over the years. Someone may not have accepted a log book entry for the Navajo yokes.

[Kristin Winter]

Charlie,

I don't blame you. That is the safe play. It seems like IA's come in two flavors -- those that are afraid of everything and want maximum paper work and those who have never looked at a Type Certificate Data Sheet in their lives and will sign anything.